Ephemerich wrote:H311fi5h wrote:That's just not true. The movie creates a paralell world, a secret universe it wants you to enter. And it does that very well. But it just throws it away. If you want straight forward action, look at 80's one man army action movies. They do it right. Why would the movie even bother to set up this world, if it was just about action, nothing more? It wants to be so much more, and it fails on so many level.
Being an action movie doesn't mean It''ll be all about guns and explosions and kicking asses. Matrix was an action movie...
On the other hand I can't argue with you. If you didn't like John Wick, then simply you didn't like John Wick. It's a matter of taste, and shouldn't be judged. It still means you have a bad taste though (: But, the problem is you sound like this movie was a big let down for you. I don't know what did you expect. Or, you really don't like some actors in this movie, or the director, maybe the sound editor? All I'm trying to say its just an action movie. You watch it, you forget it, you move along.
I didn't say that, you did.
Ephemerich wrote:Nothing more, nothing less.
Matrix is an action movie, of course, but it is so much more. It is a dystopian vision, a philosophical argument
and an action movie.
Let's compare two other movies of the same genre: Transformers (pick any) and Pacific Rim. Both movies are essentially about giant robots kicking ass (in one case other robots, in the other alien monsters, but who cares, really). But Pacific Rim is the much better movie, despite Transformers throwing more action, more explosions and (slightly) more money at the screen. Why is that? It's exactly what you said. Pacific Rim is a movie about giant robots fighting giant monsters, nothing more, nothing less. And what you get is exactly that. It builds the minimum amount of story and plot, just what is needed to set the scene. Then it goes on to what the movie is all about. Sure, you can argue that could have been done in 20 minutes less, but that's still much better than being bored to death by almost 3 hours of Transformers blowing up random shit you don't care about (let's move the last third of the movie to China for no apparent reason...)
Still Transformers was the much bigger success (in terms of money) which leads us to the next point. Liking a movie and the (objective) quality of a movie is not the same thing. Twilight was a great success, many people
like it, but you wouldn't seriously try to argue those movies are
good. I know many people who don't like Apocalypse Now, but that movie is a fucking piece of art. I watched Red Dawn like three times and I was mildly entertained, but I know it's utter shit. No one re-watches Schindler's List (probably), but there is no doubt it's one of the greatest movies ever created. See where I'm going? There are objective reasons for the quality of a movie. All critics and awards (Oscars anyone?) would be pointless if there wasn't. You can and you should debate movies. I think The Imitation Game is good, but nowhere near the amazing Nightcrawler. Still they nominated The Imitation Game for 8 Oscars, Nightcrawler for none. That's something that should be discussed, you don't just say the judges just like one more than the other, move along.
Which leads us back to John Wick. I'm not just saying I didn't enjoy the movie, I am saying it's a bad movie. I didn't have have high expectations at all. As you may have noticed, I can't stand Keanu Reeves, he's just a terrible actor. The movie actually managed to surprise me in some aspects - but disappointed my already non existent expectations at the same time. The parts don't fit. It feels like different people aiming for different things were working on that movie. It looks good, but it doesn't feel right. It is throwing away what it could have been, just to become nothing.
Let's talk about The Man From Earth (: Have you watched it yet?
No I haven't, but I guess I have to now.